EA MMA Online Fighters!
Now that Live Broadcast is no longer a weekly event, many of you are wondering what the future holds for our unique and award-winning feature.
Certain players have really stepped up the past couple months and got involved with MMA Live Broadcast in a big way. I'd like to thank those guys personally as well as pass appreciation along from the LB team. Due to that involvement and extra effort, we offered stikstyle and Ruppdat a Live Broadcast leadership role to become EA MMA League "Presidents". It’s all flexible now but if we’re going to try it out, we needed leaders like them to take the reigns. It'll be their responsibility to find great matchups (through various means), gather content for the event, and to promote those fights. They may "recruit" fellow assistant promoters from our awesome pool of regulars, GameChangers, or existing leagues, as needed. EA (and other sponsors) driven events may still take place. And Bonus Live Chat cards are still very much a possibility.
Since this is a new concept, we may change some things along the way as we both learn and find the best way to keep the community involved. Our priority is to create great fights and SPECIAL events. LBs organized and promoted by the community and produced by EA. It will take work, but I know these guys are up to the challenge. If we're successful, we'll break even more new ground in online play. And we'd like to see the community, especially those with initiative and talent like stik and Rupp, rewarded for their efforts.
- T-Rex (AKA EA_THill)
So without further ado, here's stik...
Hey everyone! A good majority if the mail I've been receiving lately has been questions in regards to exactly what the status of Live Broadcast is. While Fritz and Dickermand did mention less frequent, community run events and that myself and RuppDat would have our hands in shaping what's next, they really didn't explain what that meant. Well my friends today I've been given the green light to explain some of the details of what's going down.
Before we get to the nitty gritty though, Rupp and myself would like to thank the entire team for this show of confidence they have put on us and greatly look forward to this task. So THill, Preston, Laing, Fritz, Dickerman and the rest of the team; Thank you greatly!!!
Here's some info to hold you over until we get a little closer to launch!
What:
"Stikforce" League
Weekly Challengers events!
Monthly Champions events with Live !
Tracked rankings, records and leaderboards and contenders lists.
Who:
Everyone is invited!
Where:
Fights in Fight Cards and Live Broadcasts
Results and Card announcments located on forums
When:
First official card still TBD, tentative for Friday April 15th
Challengers Fight Cards occur on Fridays for PS3 (tentative) Rupp will update 360 day,
Champions PPV Tue May 3rd
How:
Sign up to the league by posting so here (link forum)
Show up to your Challenger fight cards and work your way up to the big show!
More details will be announced in the immediate future!|||Ugh, more league stuff? Didn't you guys do that for a solid month already?|||
Ugh, more league stuff? Didn't you guys do that for a solid month already?
This is a new format that will be ran by myself for ps3 and rupp for 360. Everyone is welcomed to join by replying in this thread or contacting myself or rupp. With the exception of something special coming up this will be the setup for getting onto the live broadcasts for now.
I assumed you would like this idea king as youll have to earn your way onto a lb by fighting once a week on our fight cards.|||Why would you think I would like it?
I've always said I liked the open chat and hype video formats, people 'earned their right to be on an LB' when they paid $60 for the game.
This is EA's official fights, why do you need a league format or fight cards to determine 'challengers'? You do know that you have the official EA leaderboard?
and really, I have to chase down some unknown person to get the 'league' fight in and if I don't I wont be on the LB because the other person sucks at life? How fun is that?
That means that A) we have to spend god only knows how long to track this person down, then B) figure out a time to actually have our league fight and then C) still rope off a night for the actual LB. That's not including a rehersal which is another entire night gone and if you skip the rehersal then we could go through all this and end up with a fight that doesn't happen due to connection issues. thats all really kind of lame.
Honestly, I was hoping that when we had active community members and fighters taking over we would get more informed matchups based on experiences you and other community members have had with the potential participants rather than the match up by belt color that was happening before. Instead we have to go through a million more hoops to get on and we could still end up with whack matchups depending on who gets a flash KO when in the 'league' fights.
there are enough leagues around and either people are in them, don't want to be in them, or are tired of them. Why in god's name dow e want another one?
Do not want.|||Thank you king for showing what I always thought was the reason I had issues with you. You dont read and then you make assumptions based off the knowledge you think you have but you dont.
First off only 4 nights a month are going to roped off if you want to fight on a lb. That the same as now. No one has to chase anyone down to get teir weekly fight done. Once the night is decided I will host a fight card and Ill make the best match ups possible from what
I have seen from a fighters fights. Thats it. I do all the hard work. The only effort you need to do is show up and fight unless you choose to make a hype video.
There is no difference from the baisc current set up other than no weekly lb fights and I will set the fights up for PS3 but I think Ive proven that I can pick fighters who will make fights. I picked Samuari to fight me because I knew he deserved the chance. I picked darkstar and the ctown to win their shots * the hw title. Fighters will now be matched up on skill not just belt color|||I dont understand why you guys dont colaberated with one of the leagues to do this type of thing. Everything you are doing is already being done in the various leagues on the net. Rankings, setting up the events in ordinary fight cards, main event fighters get to have their fights broadcasted live (we're the only ones who do this to my knowledge), rankings, champions, etc. All EA would need to do is promote and broadcast the top fights. It shows how much you guys really respect leagues when you rather try and create your own league instead of use one of the leagues thats already up and running.
This is EA's official fights, why do you need a league format or fight cards to determine 'challengers'? You do know that you have the official EA leaderboard?
Are you serious? lol The leaderboard rankings arent real rankings. The top guys arent really the top guys so what kinda sense does it make to base anythng off of it especially titles and what not. The leaderboards is a point race and nothing else. If I beat the #1 guy in a ranked match I dont become #1 where as in a league I would. The leaderboards are more of a career total where as leagues are more about the current. This is why a league format is best to determine the top guys.|||
I dont understand why you guys dont colaberated with one of the leagues to do this type of thing. Everything you are doing is already being done in the various leagues on the net. Rankings, setting up the events in ordinary fight cards, main event fighters get to have their fights broadcasted live (we're the only ones who do this to my knowledge), rankings, champions, etc. All EA would need to do is promote and broadcast the top fights. It shows how much you guys really respect leagues when you rather try and create your own league instead of use one of the leagues thats already up and running.
Well there several problems with that thought. The original idea was to incorporate a current league and just add the live broadcast feature to that league. But how do you pick one over the other? If we were to pick the EFC then anyone not currently involved in EFC and in WEFL might take offense to that and it could in the end hurt the player base.
Second is all information pertaining to this league needs to be publicly viewed on these forums and the EA MMA website. So we would be asking a currently established league to basically shut down what they've put hard work into to become the official EA MMA Live Broadcast League. I know most all of the league operators and respect what they've done and would never ask them to transfer league here.
Third.... Currently all leagues have set rules and guidelines. WEFL EFC are stock fighters only... UFF is a caf league. The only restriction we are putting on fighters is no cafs that are made after someone from real life... SO no George Bush's. Again we would be asking a league to completely alter what they are currently doing. Add to this we don't rank you on your fighter we're using GT and PSN. So you can have fights with Diaz vs Diaz. Again no league currently allows this.
Lastly and this is totally on me is that EA already is extending this to the community in people they feel are capable and will perform. This has alot possibly riding on it and that would be asking me to put alot of faith in someone else not dropping the ball. I'm a hands on guy and there are a few league owners I would put faith in, again its asking alot, and I feel more comfortable handling this myself instead of being a middle man between EA and a league owner.
With all of that being said though I encourage all league owners to have their fighters step up and compete in this representing their league. Maybe in the future it could lead to a more hyped Leage-a-Palooza.|||
This is EA's official fights, why do you need a league format or fight cards to determine 'challengers'? You do know that you have the official EA leaderboard?
Are you serious? lol The leaderboard rankings arent real rankings. The top guys arent really the top guys so what kinda sense does it make to base anythng off of it especially titles and what not. The leaderboards is a point race and nothing else. If I beat the #1 guy in a ranked match I dont become #1 where as in a league I would. The leaderboards are more of a career total where as leagues are more about the current. This is why a league format is best to determine the top guys.
Thank you Killa I was getting ready to reply almost the same thing. While I would hope many consider me near the top and I'm in the top 20 alot are worthless.
Plus going off of leaderboard ranking and even LB record King you would of been no where near a title shot so are you saying you don't deserve your title, that even I think you do deserve and earned.|||
Thank you king for showing what I always thought was the reason I had issues with you. You dont read and then you make assumptions based off the knowledge you think you have but you dont.
First off only 4 nights a month are going to roped off if you want to fight on a lb. That the same as now. No one has to chase anyone down to get teir weekly fight done. Once the night is decided I will host a fight card and Ill make the best match ups possible from what
I have seen from a fighters fights. Thats it. I do all the hard work. The only effort you need to do is show up and fight unless you choose to make a hype video.
There is no difference from the baisc current set up other than no weekly lb fights and I will set the fights up for PS3 but I think Ive proven that I can pick fighters who will make fights. I picked Samuari to fight me because I knew he deserved the chance. I picked darkstar and the ctown to win their shots * the hw title. Fighters will now be matched up on skill not just belt color
I like how you changed 'why i never liked you' to 'why I had issues with you'. You think I didn't see it before? I'm going to keep this cordial, like I always do, and you will continue to insult me, like you always do, but here it goes.
Now, as for your response, you said you dont like me because I don't read? Look at what you wrote in the first post.
You said "Show up to your Challenger fight cards and work your way up to the big show! "
YOUR FIGHT CARD. Not a fight card that you would set up weekly and we would all join. You said YOUR which implies that WE would make the fight card.
As for the next thing, judging from the responses so far the league idea is no go. Like I said, people who want to be in leagues are in them, people that arent either dont want to be in one or are tired of being in them.
The only thing the previous LBs were lacking was imput fromt he community and a clear direction on choosing contenders. You still need he same mix of fights (1 with white belts, 1 with purple brown black belts, 1 with master belts, and hopefully 1 title fight) so in the fightcard you are going to have to split matches like that. All you are adding is a 'play in game' which suck in the NCAA tournament, and those are at least televised so people can watch. And who is picking the matchups for the 'Challenger fights' and why aren't those in the LB?
Here would be my proposal, because I'm not here to tear other people up, I'm here to hopefully improve the community and the gameplay experience for EVERYONE, unlike some people.
Basically you start by making a list of people who want to fight in the upcoming LBs. You then use belt, record and community input to make 'potential matchups' which you then post in here as a poll.
One thing to describe here:
Community Input: Here is what I mean by community input. You have the list of people that want to fight. In the same thread you allow people to say what they think would be good matchups. This would go something like 'hey, I've fought both fighter X and fighter Y and they would be a good matchup against each other' or 'hey, I was in a fight card with X and Y and when they fought it was a war, you should match them up'.
We usually have 4 fights for PS3, so 8 people. Lets say the list of people is 24 people long, and new people are allowed to sign up at any time so hopefully it grows over time. But you start off needing 8 fighter or 4 match ups. First you take the selected match ups from community input (you may have to score this, like people said X and Y should fight 5 times versus 4 for Z and A), then you match people up by like record and like belt and you then divide the various matchups by 'quality' aka belt color, win record, championship fight etc and you create 4 polls so people can pick a match up for each.
Ideally, you end up with a group of 3 to 5 people in competition for 1 fight slot. Lets say people said Seyton vs stik would be good and stick vs Christmas would be good and Christmas vs seyton would be good. You make the poll for those 3 fights, or is you have 4 or 5 guys you make the poll for each potential matchup and whichever matchup gets the most votes is the one that goes into the LB and the guys not picked get pushed forward to the next week. If you did this for 4 weeks you would then have 16 people that won one and 16 that lost. You get community input and look at record and look at belt to get the next round of potential match ups, you then put up polls for those potential match ups and you go. Of course, you reserve a spot or two to match up new people that sign up and you just go from there.
The leader board and rankings would be perfect for tracking all of this and would make the future polls easier to set up.
That is the best way to keep the LBs available to the most amount of people possible while remaining organized and having clear progression in the fights and most importantly it makes the community more involved in the process.
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This is EA's official fights, why do you need a league format or fight cards to determine 'challengers'? You do know that you have the official EA leaderboard?
Are you serious? lol The leaderboard rankings arent real rankings. The top guys arent really the top guys so what kinda sense does it make to base anythng off of it especially titles and what not. The leaderboards is a point race and nothing else. If I beat the #1 guy in a ranked match I dont become #1 where as in a league I would. The leaderboards are more of a career total where as leagues are more about the current. This is why a league format is best to determine the top guys.
Thank you Killa I was getting ready to reply almost the same thing. While I would hope many consider me near the top and I'm in the top 20 alot are worthless.
Plus going off of leaderboard ranking and even LB record King you would of been no where near a title shot so are you saying you don't deserve your title, that even I think you do deserve and earned.
So the OFFICIAL EA leaberboards are considered useless by EA themselves? Maybe they should do something about that.|||Yes the leaderboards are useless and we all know it. Look at the top 20 there are at least 5 guys who don't play anymore and have been MIA long enough they don't even have replays available. So unless they wipe it, it is pointless.
Your fight card meaning that we will be setting up different fight cards on said night for fighters to fight in. You took it out of context because it was a generalized message.
Here is the problem King with your idea King... These things have other requirements that the community won't be putting in. Specialized hype videos for the event. Promoters Blogs that have to be written to hype the event. Email Blasts that have to be sent out. Facebook and twitter updates that have to be posted. All of these trying to spark interest in the event.
What you're saying is we just randomly let the community pick the fights, hope they all show up for the one event we have a month now and on top of that hope its a good fight. That turns your champions into useless titles like we already have online because we're playing pick and choose.
What I really don't understand is you do this very thing every night. You set up fight cards and fight. So whats the issue? You don't have to look at it as a league, if thats the issue. But its show up fight a fight go on about your business.
And FYI it never said I never liked you it always said why I had issues with you. I had to edit the spelling because typing on an iphone sucks. Maybe you wanted it to... but it didn't.|||
Yes the leaderboards are useless and we all know it. Look at the top 20 there are at least 5 guys who don't play anymore and have been MIA long enough they don't even have replays available. So unless they wipe it, it is pointless.
Your fight card meaning that we will be setting up different fight cards on said night for fighters to fight in. You took it out of context because it was a generalized message.
Here is the problem King with your idea King... These things have other requirements that the community won't be putting in. Specialized hype videos for the event. Promoters Blogs that have to be written to hype the event. Email Blasts that have to be sent out. Facebook and twitter updates that have to be posted. All of these trying to spark interest in the event.
What you're saying is we just randomly let the community pick the fights, hope they all show up for the one event we have a month now and on top of that hope its a good fight. That turns your champions into useless titles like we already have online because we're playing pick and choose.
What I really don't understand is you do this very thing every night. You set up fight cards and fight. So whats the issue? You don't have to look at it as a league, if thats the issue. But its show up fight a fight go on about your business.
And FYI it never said I never liked you it always said why I had issues with you. I had to edit the spelling because typing on an iphone sucks. Maybe you wanted it to... but it didn't.
OK, lie about what you originally wrote. Like I said, I'm not going to your level.
Two issues:
1. The hype video and blog setup wouldn't be an issue because you close the polls early enough to give you the time you need.
2. You say 'let the community randomly pick fights'. Did you read what I wrote at all? You obviously didn't because I said the #1 problem with the old LBs was the lack of community input in the fights and you just proved that's not changing.
The community knows each other better than Preston Chad, and I hate to break it to you, you stick, can ever know about the fighters.|||And the fact that EA is creating a second set of official leaderboards because they think their current leaderboards are a joke is a shocking admission?
If the devs really think their leaderboard is such a joke why don't they fix it?
How in the world did you convince them to make this admission?|||Whatever King. I'm just going to start ignoring you now.|||
And the fact that EA is creating a second set of official leaderboards because they think their current leaderboards are a joke is a shocking admission?
If the devs really think their leaderboard is such a joke why don't they fix it?
How in the world did you convince them to make this admission?
The leaderboards are useless in terms of this league idea not as a whole. Like I said if I beat the #1 guy on the leaderboards I dont claim the #1 spot bcuz the board is point based. Not counting all the boosters and ppl who earned high ranking thru glitching. A league format gives more freedom for the promoters to make the needed matchups and you cant boost or glitch. If you dont understand it you never will. Wether you want to see it or not league play is more legit than the leaderboards. Simply put the top guys on the leaderboards arent the top guys. They're just the guys with the most points.
Well there several problems with that thought. The original idea was to incorporate a current league and just add the live broadcast feature to that league. But how do you pick one over the other? If we were to pick the EFC then anyone not currently involved in EFC and in WEFL might take offense to that and it could in the end hurt the player base.
Who would take offense and why? I dont get that and how would the choice hurt the player base? The players will join whichever league is chosen and advertised. The only ppl who wont join a particular league are the ones who hate on it and who cares about haters?
Second is all information pertaining to this league needs to be publicly viewed on these forums and the EA MMA website. So we would be asking a currently established league to basically shut down what they've put hard work into to become the official EA MMA Live Broadcast League. I know most all of the league operators and respect what they've done and would never ask them to transfer league here.
This isnt a good excuse bcuz you didnt ask all league owners so you dont know. This sounds like you had a league or 2 in mind to incorperate but they didnt want to transfer so you left it at that. Screw the other leagues.
Third.... Currently all leagues have set rules and guidelines. WEFL EFC are stock fighters only... UFF is a caf league. The only restriction we are putting on fighters is no cafs that are made after someone from real life... SO no George Bush's. Again we would be asking a league to completely alter what they are currently doing. Add to this we don't rank you on your fighter we're using GT and PSN. So you can have fights with Diaz vs Diaz. Again no league currently allows this.
OMMA doesnt have set rules. We play the game as is just like you allow on the broadcasts.
Lastly and this is totally on me is that EA already is extending this to the community in people they feel are capable and will perform. This has alot possibly riding on it and that would be asking me to put alot of faith in someone else not dropping the ball. I'm a hands on guy and there are a few league owners I would put faith in, again its asking alot, and I feel more comfortable handling this myself instead of being a middle man between EA and a league owner.
You registered to OMMA awhile back. You couldve certainly been on the staff if you wanted which wouldve meant you wouldnt have been the middle man in this situation. I get it tho. :)
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